From xod@thestonecutters.net Tue Sep 10 10:37:46 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 10 Sep 2002 17:37:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 36585 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2002 17:37:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Sep 2002 17:37:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 17:37:45 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17ooxO-0001q7-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:37:46 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17oowp-0001pp-00; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:37:11 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17oowi-0001pd-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:37:04 -0700 Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g8AHb3k69362 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:37:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:37:03 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: word for "www" (was: Archive location.) In-Reply-To: <20020910173133.GB6798@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Message-ID: <20020910133247.K68275-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1022 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 01:21:13PM -0400, Invent Yourself wrote: > > >From http://nuzban.wiw.org/wiki/index.php?ralcku > > > > > > 1. maldzena reservations about the virtuality of a cukta can be > > overcome by considering the modern meaning of the term "document", > > and considering a cukta as a collection of documents. > > > > 2. The gismu definition does not refer to the cohesiveness often > > considered necessary for "books". > > Even granting these, and the rest of the stuff on that page, ralcku is a > crappy lujvo for the web because it's just not specific enough. > > ralcku could be a library. Are you saying that a library is one cukta? You've given me the argument right here. > Almost a third of the world would probably assume that ralcku was the > Bible (that's the most important book, right?). > > Another quarter would assume it was the Koran. It contains the Bible and Koran. That makes it just as, if not more ralju. > I mean, *come* *on*. It means 'most important book'. Not only is that > ridiculously ambigous *now*, it's pretty much guarnteed to become > obsoleted over time. When the web is replaced by something else which is other than an evolution of the same concept? (Still the web, but a difference in implementation detail, etc) Are you quite sure that all lujvo must guard against future events we can *barely* comprehend? I don't think I need to dignify this with the encouragement of a discussion. -- Before Sept. 11 there was not the present excited talk about a strike on Iraq. There is no evidence of any connection between Iraq and that act of terrorism. Why would that event change the situation? -- Howard Zinn