From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Sep 10 11:30:47 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 10 Sep 2002 18:30:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 97565 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2002 18:30:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Sep 2002 18:30:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 18:30:46 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17opmg-0006ee-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:30:46 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17opm2-0006eI-00; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:30:06 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17oplv-0006e3-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:29:59 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:29:59 -0700 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: word for "www" (was: Archive location.) Message-ID: <20020910182959.GF6798@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <176.e40fb19.2aaf7262@aol.com> <20020910131928.Y68275-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020910131928.Y68275-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 1026 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 01:21:13PM -0400, Invent Yourself wrote: > >From http://nuzban.wiw.org/wiki/index.php?ralcku > > > 1. maldzena reservations about the virtuality of a cukta can be > overcome by considering the modern meaning of the term "document", and > considering a cukta as a collection of documents. > > 2. The gismu definition does not refer to the cohesiveness often > considered necessary for "books". > > 3. Is a "single website" a cukta? Can a cukta be in hypertext form and > retain its status as a single cukta? Is a Wiki any sort of cukta? Beware > of importing the malglico semantics of "book"! Since you decided that my other response was too flamy, here's the part I actually wanted a response to: The whole *point* of lujvo, unless I'm missing something, is that someone should be able to dissect them and figure out what you mean. I will bet you *any* *amount* *of* *money* (and I mean that) that if you ask 20 random non-lojbanists that you haven't discussed any of this stuff with what 'principal (as in most important) book' means, with no other information, that no more than 1 or 2 will guess the web. Seriously. Any amount of money you like. I just got a check for a stock disbursment. I'll give you 10 to 1 odds. You can even show them the full definition of ralju and cukta, but you can't give them any other information. This seems like a reasonable sanity test for a lujvo, don't you think? -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. le datni cu djica le nu zifre .iku'i .oi le so'e datni cu to'e te pilno je xlali -- RLP http://www.lojban.org/