From gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch Tue Sep 10 12:00:02 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_0_1); 10 Sep 2002 19:00:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 51842 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2002 19:00:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Sep 2002 19:00:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta11n.bluewin.ch) (195.186.1.211) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 19:00:02 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (62.202.152.156) by mta11n.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 6.5.027) id 3D523C9E002D3BAB for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:59:59 +0200 Message-ID: <01b001c258fc$4db36300$4da503d5@oemcomputer> To: "jboste" References: <1a9.8336f0f.2aaf971d@aol.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] tunlo Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 21:00:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "G. Dyke" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=81437350 X-Yahoo-Profile: gregvdyke So how do I say what I swallowed? On at least two occasions, recent usage has overridden the official definition anyway. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] tunlo > In a message dated 9/10/2002 11:31:21 AM Central Daylight Time, > gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch writes: > > > > mu'i ma noda ka'e sumti zo tunlo li re i pe'i le ba nenri be le betfu cu > > go'i .ei i pe'ipei > > > > This was one of a set of "basic actions," in the philosophical "muscle > twitch" sense, that were separated out to allow one predicate to cover a wide > range of "non-basic actions" (twitches with purposes and affecting things > other than the body itself) by compounding. Whether the philosophy behind > this was sound, we are stuck with several of these and they seem to work OK. > On the other hand, we left several potential members of the set unreduced and > somehow manage to deal with all the cases anyhow. (see the "action" set in > the 1-place predicates in the partially organized lists). > We can, after all, swallow without swallowing anything, even spit -- and > {zi'o} is more suspect than compounds. >