From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Sep 11 11:25:10 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 11 Sep 2002 18:25:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 12355 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2002 18:25:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Sep 2002 18:25:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Sep 2002 18:25:01 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17pCAf-0002lM-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:25:01 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17pCA8-0002kX-00; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:24:28 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miranda.org ([209.58.150.153] ident=qmailr) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17pCA1-0002kO-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:24:21 -0700 Received: (qmail 28883 invoked by uid 534); 11 Sep 2002 18:24:20 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:24:20 -0600 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: [lojban] word for "www" (was: Archive location.) Message-ID: <20020911122420.C6835@miranda.org> References: <20020911105811.U73477-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> <200209111659.MAA22279@mail2.reutershealth.com> <20020911113528.A6835@miranda.org> <20020911181050.GN6798@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20020911181050.GN6798@chain.digitalkingdom.org>; from rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org on Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 11:10:50AM -0700 X-archive-position: 1125 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jkominek@miranda.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jay F Kominek From: Jay F Kominek Reply-To: jkominek@miranda.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 11:10:50AM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 11:35:28AM -0600, Jay F Kominek wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 12:48:33PM -0400, John Cowan wrote: > > > Invent Yourself scripsit: > > > > > > > Everyone, I've been using the word "cukta" to mean roughly: a > > > > collection of documents and/or pages. I don't believe that I have > > > > yet heard an argument that contradicts this by adding more > > > > restrictions to the definition which are derived from the place > > > > structures, and not simply induced from the stereotypical "book". > > > > > > The place structures are not enough. > > > > > > Otherwise, there would be no distinguishing between any animals or > > > plants (modulo the few surviving exceptions) since they all have x1 > > > as the creature and x2 as its species/type. > > > > x1 of bakni, sure, is a creature, but more specifically it has to be a > > bovine creature. > > > > x2 of bakni, sure, is a species, but more specifically, it has to be a > > species of bovine. > > > > Same for the rest of them. > > That was *precisely* his point. Erm. One or both of us is confused. Most likely me. I see my description of bakni's x1 and x2 above as being part of the definition of each place, not as part of some sort of connective holding the places together, or floating in the mental ether above and around 'bakni'. If that meshes, swell. Otherwise, well, I'm not worried. -- Jay Kominek Don't worry, Things have an annoying tendancy to work out.