From gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch Wed Sep 11 11:33:38 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 11 Sep 2002 18:33:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 67952 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2002 18:33:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Sep 2002 18:33:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta11n.bluewin.ch) (195.186.1.211) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Sep 2002 18:33:37 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (213.3.164.231) by mta11n.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 6.5.027) id 3D523C9E002EE6E6 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:33:34 +0200 Message-ID: <02a601c259c1$ca994e00$4da503d5@oemcomputer> To: "jboste" References: <20020911105811.U73477-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> <20020911180952.GM6798@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: word for "www" (was: Archive location.) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:33:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "G. Dyke" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=81437350 X-Yahoo-Profile: gregvdyke Robin: > I would be fine with something like samja'odatni, actually. I don't > feel any great need for something that only applies to the WWW as such. > Something that could easily apply to any linked network store would be > fine to me. > that is a samseltcana or a datnyseltcana depending on whether you're focusing on the Internet or the www Xod: > > Also, it neglects the unique, singleton nature of the WWW. (There is > > only one WWW, If there is only one WWW, then it is moot to make a selbri out of it. It is {la ueb} or {la civys} or some similar, hopefuly understandable, dairdai > How do you define something as being part of the WWW? If a page can be > reached by URL but is not linked anywhere, does that count? > > > but there can be any number of masses of web resources in existence.) > > Hmmm. Gonna have to ponder that. > > > "la ralcku" can be used, sidestepping this whole discussion. Only by people who were around when we had this discussion. I firmly believe that the only words lojbanists *should* ever need to look up are already published in wordlists. If a lujvo needs looking up (with the possible exception of one used in some particular field, which has a complex place structure, is often used in that field, but never by anyone else) it is f**** useless. No, scrap that idea, any lujvo which is not created for zipf purposes and understandable on the fly is useless. I'll start a topic on what we all think lujvo are for, that should keep us going 'till christmas (winter solstice for all of us except xorxes ;-) > > True. > > > And "le" leaves such room for latitude that in practice and with the > > publicity generated by this discussion, "le ralcku" can surely be used > > with understanding now. yeah, you say {la ueb goi le ralcku} and then you can use ralcku to you hearts content. mi'egreg