From jjllambias@hotmail.com Thu Sep 12 05:24:59 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 12 Sep 2002 12:24:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 67917 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2002 12:24:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Sep 2002 12:24:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.79) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 12:24:58 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 05:24:58 -0700 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:24:58 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] word for "www" (was: Archive location.) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:24:58 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Sep 2002 12:24:58.0748 (UTC) FILETIME=[68D8ABC0:01C25A57] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la lojbab cusku di'e >But then why isn't a person "pa selci be lo'e prenu", with pa prenu being a >quantity of persons (i.e. a people) Because we are more interested in talking about individual persons than about individual water molecules, and the basic roots define the more common concepts. > >I have seen {mergu'e} used often, which is a lujvo for "United States". > >Has it ever been quantified? Is there pa mergu'e or muno mergu'e? pa mergu'e without the slightest doubt. >I don't think we can say one way or another until we see how people >translate the concept of "one people" in some context where it would use >prenu. But you did say it could be just as well one or the other. I agree that usage could eventually make prenu meaningful in that sense or any other, but it would be very far from the current meaning. >(I suspect that I would usually use natmi or the x2 of one of the >places that has a people in that place like bangu). Yes, so would I. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com