From jjllambias@hotmail.com Mon Sep 16 11:55:56 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 16 Sep 2002 18:55:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 57822 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2002 18:55:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Sep 2002 18:55:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.165) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2002 18:55:55 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 11:55:55 -0700 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 18:55:54 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: I like chocolate Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 18:55:54 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Sep 2002 18:55:55.0226 (UTC) FILETIME=[AFA62BA0:01C25DB2] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la djan cusku di'e >I find the concept "viska lo'e co'e" a bit disturbing, unless it were >construed as "seeing something which has visual features typical of X", >which would be yet a further extension of "lo'e". (Or would it?) The problem comes from trying to give a referent to {lo'e co'e}. It doesn't have a referent. "viska lo'e co'e" does not claim that there is something that is seen. (Normally, when you see something, it is also the case that there is something seen, but {lo'e}, unlike {lo} makes no claim one way or the other about there being something which is seen.) >That which can be seen has a color, but what is the color of lo'e >sincrbo'a? I'm not an expert on boas, but I understand there is no one color of boas, is there? Several colours can be "a" color of boas, but probably none is _the_ color of boas. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com