From jcowan@reutershealth.com Tue Sep 17 09:51:38 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 17 Sep 2002 16:51:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 64499 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2002 16:51:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Sep 2002 16:51:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.reutershealth.com) (65.246.141.151) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2002 16:51:36 -0000 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[10.65.117.21]) by mail2.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA01597; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:02:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200209171702.NAA01597@mail2.reutershealth.com> Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 17 Sep 2002 12:51:34 -0400 Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: I like chocolate To: pycyn@aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 12:51:34 -0400 (EDT) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: from "pycyn@aol.com" at Sep 17, 2002 12:30:05 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=8122456 X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan pycyn@aol.com scripsit: > Of course, this involves a looks-like correlation (not at all natural, for all > that) and the case might be harder with non-representational or differently > representational (e.g., cubism) conventions I think it's erroneous to talk of "non-representational painting", a painting being essentially a representation, though not perhaps of anything we can see. "Non-objective painting" might be more appropriate. If a painting weren't a representation, it would be what Mark Twain said Whistler's painting was: a canvas covered with smears of tomato juice (or something to that effect). "We must be very careful to avoid wifty thinking." --David Jenner -- What is the sound of Perl? Is it not the John Cowan sound of a [Ww]all that people have stopped jcowan@reutershealth.com banging their head against? --Larry http://www.ccil.org/~cowan