Subject: Re: carolingianosity

From: "A.W.T." <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:18:51 -0000

--- In lojban@y..., John Cowan <jcowan@r...> wrote:

>This fellow is interesting: in English, his
> name is completely opaque, in French it's partly opaque and partly not,
> but in German his name *is* la karolus. poi barda: Karl der Grosse.
> Of course, in Germany he's a German emperor, whereas in France (and
> a fortiori in Anglophonia) he's a French emperor.

The latter statement may be correct, but I never was taught (post WWII) tha=
t 
'Karl der Große' was a German emperor - nor that he was a French emperor: 
there was no 'german' or 'french' state at that time! Carolus Magnus 
(Charlesmagne), king of 'Franken' (Franconia?), was regarded the leader of =
the 
Roman Empire (much later called 'Das Römische Reich Deutscher Nation').

mi'e .aulun.