From jcowan@reutershealth.com Tue Sep 17 14:35:46 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 17 Sep 2002 21:35:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 32342 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2002 21:35:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Sep 2002 21:35:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.reutershealth.com) (65.246.141.151) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2002 21:35:46 -0000 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[10.65.117.21]) by mail2.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA06165; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200209172146.RAA06165@mail2.reutershealth.com> Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:35:16 -0400 Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: carolingianosity To: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de (A.W.T.) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:35:16 -0400 (EDT) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: from "A.W.T." at Sep 17, 2002 09:18:51 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=8122456 X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan A.W.T. scripsit: > there was no 'german' or 'french' state at that time! Carolus Magnus > (Charlesmagne), king of 'Franken' (Franconia?), Variably "the Franks", "the Frankish kingdom", or even "the French empire". > was regarded the leader of the > Roman Empire (much later called 'Das Römische Reich Deutscher Nation'). Fair enough, but is not the Federal Republic a direct successor (in the 5th degree) of that state? So is the Fifth Republic, to be sure. BTW, here is a good page showing how everyone with any European ancestry at all is almost certainly descended from Charlemagne. -- Schlingt dreifach einen Kreis vom dies! || John Cowan Schliesst euer Aug vor heiliger Schau, || http://www.reutershealth.com Denn er genoss vom Honig-Tau, || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Und trank die Milch vom Paradies. -- Coleridge (tr. Politzer)