From jjllambias@hotmail.com Wed Sep 18 10:42:34 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 18 Sep 2002 17:42:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 77214 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2002 17:42:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Sep 2002 17:42:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.7) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Sep 2002 17:42:33 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:42:33 -0700 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 17:42:33 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: I like chocolate Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 17:42:33 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Sep 2002 17:42:33.0990 (UTC) FILETIME=[C5225A60:01C25F3A] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la and cusku di'e >Is {tu'a da} a cover for {tu'o du'u da zo'u ce'u co'e da}? That is the >crux, and I think we all want the answer to be Yes. We all want that as far as where the quantifier goes, I'm sure about that. But in general, {tu'a da} is a cover for any of: {tu'o du'u da zo'u ce'u co'e da} {tu'o du'u da zo'u co'e da} {tu'o? nu da zo'u co'e da} and possibly others. Which one it is depends on where it is used. It's a du'u in a place that accepts {du'u}s, a nu in a place that accepts {nu}s. >BTW, are you actually proposing locutions like {nelci tu'a lo cakla}, >{nelci tu'o du'u ce'u co'e lo cakla}? To me, those don't mean the >same thing as "I like chocolate". I don't think he was proposing that. In this case, x2 of nelci accepts {nu}s, not {du'u}s, so it means {nelci ?? nu co'e lo cakla}. (I think ?? = {tu'o} or equivalently {lo'e}.) mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com