From a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Wed Sep 18 14:43:47 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 18 Sep 2002 21:43:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 82075 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2002 21:43:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Sep 2002 21:43:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailbox-14.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.114) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Sep 2002 21:43:46 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-68-213.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.68.213]) by mailbox-14.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A5BBA4A039; Wed, 18 Sep 2002 23:43:44 +0200 (DST) To: "John Cowan" Cc: Subject: RE: [lojban] figurative painting & anti-zi'o (was: RE: Re: I like chocolate Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 22:45:23 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200209182148.RAA20212@mail2.reutershealth.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=122260811 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin John: > And Rosta scripsit: > > > I don't see the error in describing Rothko or Kandinsky as > > nonrepresentational. Their works may evoke, but they don't represent. > > They don't represent *iconically*, but I think they still represent, though > I grant that it would be hard to say just what they represent. (I was an > English major, but it would be hard to say of just what regiment.) I can't see *how* they represent. Granted, not all representation is iconic, especially conventional representation, but what sort of representation is involved with Rothko & Kandinsky. (I'm sure, btw, that they'd agree with me...) --And.