From lee@piclab.com Wed Sep 18 17:10:54 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lee@piclab.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 19 Sep 2002 00:10:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 47629 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2002 00:10:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Sep 2002 00:10:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sanantonio.piclab.com) (66.216.68.43) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2002 00:10:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 9750 invoked by uid 502); 19 Sep 2002 00:10:57 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 19:10:57 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: word for "www" (was: Archive location.) Message-ID: <20020919001057.GA9717@piclab.com> References: <28.2c57e488.2aafa385@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <28.2c57e488.2aafa385@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-URL: http://www.piclab.com/lee/ From: Lee Daniel Crocker X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1436760 X-Yahoo-Profile: bowtie95841 > << > I will bet you *any* *amount* *of* *money* (and I mean that) that if you > ask 20 non-lojbanists what 'principal (as in most important) book' > means, with no other information, that no more than 1 or 2 will guess > the web. > If a lujvo can't pass such a basic test of sanity, dammit, it's a > *shitty* lujvo! > >> > This seems a rather severe judgment on something like ninety percent of the > inherited Lojban vocabulary. I'm inclined to say that if it passes the test > easily (say 15 or the 20 get it), then it is a shitty lujvo. I wouldn't call that a shitty lujvo, but I would call it an unnecessary one. After all, if it can be correctly understood from its parts, then it doesn't express anything more than its underlying tanru, and there's therefore no need for the lujvo in the first place except phonetic brevity, which doesn't feel like a very compelling reason to me for creating a lujvo. All that being said, I have to agree that "principal book" is a bad basis for "web". I'd say something more like "universal information store" or "principal information network" would be much better; that gives us something like "raldatnyci'e" or "kaudatnysorcu" (assuming we ignore the silly arbitrary restriction of "common" requiring a du'u). -- Lee Daniel Crocker "All inventions or works of authorship original to me, herein and past, are placed irrevocably in the public domain, and may be used or modified for any purpose, without permission, attribution, or notification."--LDC