From jjllambias@hotmail.com Thu Sep 19 08:48:25 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 19 Sep 2002 15:48:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 85341 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2002 15:48:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Sep 2002 15:48:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.240.133) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2002 15:48:13 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 08:48:12 -0700 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:48:12 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: RE: [lojban] lo'e, le'e, tu'o Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:48:12 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2002 15:48:12.0951 (UTC) FILETIME=[F60CA270:01C25FF3] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la and cusku di'e > > >BTW, this automatically gives us a useful meaning for > > >{le'e} -- it would mean {(ro) le pa}. > > > > Don't you mean {tu'o le tu'o}? > >Outer quantifier could just as well be tu'o, yes, as per my >above remarks. I think it must be {tu'o}, or you are left with plain {le}. >The inner one, though, is the cardinality >specifier, and I'm not sure what tu'o would mean as a cardinality >specification. On further thought, I agree that the inner cannot be {tu'o}. But it need not be {pa}, either. The inner quantifier remains the cardinality of the underlying set {le'i}, before the collapse into one individual takes place, so in general for {le} it could still be {su'o}. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx