From jjllambias@hotmail.com Thu Sep 19 16:11:39 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 19 Sep 2002 23:11:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 84147 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2002 23:08:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Sep 2002 23:08:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.126) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2002 23:08:44 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 16:08:44 -0700 Received: from 200.69.6.51 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 23:08:44 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] figurative painting & anti-zi'o (was: RE: Re: I like chocolate Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 23:08:44 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2002 23:08:44.0402 (UTC) FILETIME=[806BFD20:01C26031] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.69.6.51] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la and cusku di'e >So in the end I went >for "fe zi'o nai cintyxra" -- "zi'o nai" as an anti-zi'o saying >"be reminded that this sumti place is present!". Jorge in his >brilliant retranslation clearly didn't know what to make of this, >since he just translated it as "painting". I had forgotten about that, I had meant to ask you about it. As you say, I had no idea what to make of it. To tell you the truth, I was so exhausted after trying to figure out all the ge-gi's in that sentence, and not obtaining a satisfctory result, that I figured it wouldn't matter anyway. Rosenthal: Throughout the last forty years, the works of Frank Auerbach and the very specific world they evoke have been an inescapable presence in British figurative painting. And: ni'o ca'o pi ro lo'e ro moi be lo'i pu nanca vo no mei da poi finti ke'a fa la'o m Frank Auerbach m zo'u ge da gi lo'e ge ja'a sai gi ge se steci be fi lo'i munje gi to'e se sucta gi te xargau be fa da no mu'ei se rivbi da da'o vi lo'e brito nu fe zi'o nai di cintyxra Xorxes: For the last forty years the work of Frank Auerbach has been the only world, abstract, impossible to avoid in the British painting scene. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx