From jjllambias@hotmail.com Fri Sep 20 09:23:46 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 20 Sep 2002 16:23:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 43591 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2002 16:23:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Sep 2002 16:23:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.19) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Sep 2002 16:23:46 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 09:23:45 -0700 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 16:23:44 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] lessons in french Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 16:23:44 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2002 16:23:45.0606 (UTC) FILETIME=[179FB660:01C260C2] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la greg cusku di'e >In ordinary usage, I would separate these from the bridi: > >ienai i blanu Yes, that's what I would do to get that sense. But {ienai blanu} or {blanu ienai} also have meaning, to me they express disagreement something about being blue. >I presume a ianai on it's own would express disbelief of a previous bridi? Yes, or whatever situation is under consideration, not necessarily restricted to one bridi. To restrict to one bridi {ienai go'i} or {go'i ienai}. >I thought it pointless to go that far and I chose to neither introduce {i} >or (and which I thought might be more controversial) {.} I think you did a great job. But that particular example does not agree with how I would use the language, that's all. >the latter two we shall get to either next lesson or the one after, and >more >explicit description of attitudinals will come later as well Sounds good. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx