From a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Fri Sep 20 12:08:56 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 20 Sep 2002 19:08:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 74855 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2002 19:08:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Sep 2002 19:08:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailbox-15.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.115) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Sep 2002 19:08:56 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-71-4.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.71.4]) by mailbox-15.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EC2D207F1 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 21:08:54 +0200 (DST) To: Subject: corrigible vlaste? RE: Re: I like chocolate Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 20:10:34 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7e.2dfdd0d4.2abb9151@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=122260811 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin pc: > jjllambias@hotmail.com writes: > << > Would you say that official {sisku} is just awkward (my position), > or plain nonsensical? > >> > Given that choice, I would go with "awkward," too. I would prefer > "ill-conceived" and "needlessly opque" (not quite the same as "awkward'). It's really the baseline that is ill-conceived. It is inevitable that at the stage of development the language was at when it was baselined it would be full of things awkward & ill-conceived. I wonder whether it would be worthwhile keeping on a wiki a ma'oste and gi'uste where revisions can be made that correct some of the faults of the baselined versions -- stripping out unnecessary sumti places, making place structures consistent, revising definitions, etc. That way we have some sort of ongoing record of what the vocab should be like had it not been baselined, and it also means that we have a shared point of reference. Whenever Jorge points out flaws in the gismu, I invariably agree with him, but don't keep records of the revisions that his remarks imply. It would be useful to record these in the form of a corrigible vlaste. --And.