From a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Sat Sep 21 06:48:31 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 21 Sep 2002 13:48:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 60518 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2002 13:48:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Sep 2002 13:48:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Sep 2002 13:48:31 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17skeT-00062t-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 06:50:29 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17skdu-00061d-00; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 06:49:54 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 21 Sep 2002 06:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbox-15.st1.spray.net ([212.78.202.115]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17skdn-000611-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 06:49:51 -0700 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-71-121.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.71.121]) by mailbox-15.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 641D21FF87 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 15:47:14 +0200 (DST) To: Subject: RE: [lojban] corrigible vlaste? RE: Re: I like chocolate Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 14:48:54 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20020920235438.C31365@miranda.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-archive-position: 1429 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: "And Rosta" Reply-To: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=122260811 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin Jay: > The Wiki rejects all association with the LLG, and has never knowingly > sought the approval of anyone. > > If I was trying to keep the Wiki somehow LLG-compliant, I wouldn't let > And get away with his experimental cmavo silliness on the Wiki. The experimental gismu are silly, but the experimental cmavo aren't. All the experimental cmavo suggested by me are serious. Most are brainstormed ideas that deserve to be rejected, but some make a great improvement to Lojban. Anyway, what is this notion of 'LLG-compliance'? You may know something I don't, but to me it's rubbish to suggest that the LLG tries to prevent discussion of how Lojban could be improved. Indeed, that would go against its very founding principles (that see Loglans as an instrument of linguistic research). I think that if the Wiki were officially associated with the LLG (in fact, is it not now an official LLG project, as listed at lojban.org?), nothing about it would change. --And.