From jjllambias@hotmail.com Sat Sep 21 19:13:10 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 22 Sep 2002 02:13:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 47184 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2002 02:13:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Sep 2002 02:13:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.183) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2002 02:13:10 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 19:13:10 -0700 Received: from 200.69.6.18 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 02:13:09 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Translation request Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 02:13:09 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2002 02:13:10.0180 (UTC) FILETIME=[98F73640:01C261DD] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.69.6.18] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la djorden cusku di'e >I think you're confusing your connectives. Logical connectives >are always expandable: > ko'a broda je brode == ko'a broda gi'e brode == ko'a broda .ije ko'a >brode Well... No argument about the second equivalence, but the Book does not sanction the first one (pg. 349). I read {sampu je tolkargu traji} as {traji le ka sampu je tolkargu}, and even if you expand that to {traji le ka sampu gi'e tolkargu}, it won't expand any further. There are no fast rules about tanru, so you could I suppose interpret it as {sampu traji gi'e tolkargu traji}, but I find the other expansion more natural. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com