From jjllambias@hotmail.com Sat Sep 21 22:40:24 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 22 Sep 2002 05:40:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 50115 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2002 05:40:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Sep 2002 05:40:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.21) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2002 05:40:23 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 22:40:23 -0700 Received: from 200.69.6.24 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 05:40:22 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Translation request Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 05:40:22 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2002 05:40:23.0855 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C0373F0:01C261FA] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.69.6.24] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la djorden cusku di'e >It may or may not be true, but the speaker isn't claiming its truth, >because its truth isn't relevant to the truth of the jo'u. Ok, you may be right, but then I don't know what {ko'a jo'u ko'e klama} means as different from {ko'a joi ko'e klama}. That was just an idea to give it some sense. >The default quantifier on a mass is pisu'o, so it's not the whole >mass by default. The default quantifier on {loi} is pisu'o. That means that {loi broda} selects from masses formed from any number of members of {lo'i broda}, not just the one mass formed from all members. But {ko'a joi ko'e} does not have a quantifier. It is a singular term. > > >The nonlogical conncectives are much clearer for me with sumti > > >though, so I'm probably wrong :) > > > > Deffinitely. They've always been somewhat mysterious in tanru. > > (And we haven't even touched the set connectives.) > >Set connectives work in tanru? They are grammatical there, which is not the same as to say that they work. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com