From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Sep 22 17:34:58 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 23 Sep 2002 00:34:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 29509 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2002 00:34:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Sep 2002 00:34:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Sep 2002 00:34:58 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17tHDm-0005rt-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 17:37:06 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17tHD8-0005ra-00; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 17:36:26 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 22 Sep 2002 17:36:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miranda.org ([209.58.150.153] ident=qmailr) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17tHD5-0005rR-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 17:36:23 -0700 Received: (qmail 10661 invoked by uid 534); 23 Sep 2002 00:34:14 -0000 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 18:34:14 -0600 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: cmavo for emphasis? Message-ID: <20020922183414.H31365@miranda.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from a.rosta@lycos.co.uk on Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 01:26:08AM +0100 X-archive-position: 1499 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jkominek@miranda.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jay F Kominek From: Jay F Kominek Reply-To: jkominek@miranda.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 01:26:08AM +0100, And Rosta wrote: > Viktoro [mailto:vixcafe@yahoo.ca] > > Are there particles for showing emphasis? > > > > In English, we use a stronger voice to show emphasis in sentences > > like: > > > > "The *dog* bit the postman." > > > > "The dog bit the *postman*." > > > > "The dog *bit* the postman." > > > > How does one indicate emphasis? By word order or what? ba'e before the word, in all these cases. Only And's third example would actually suggest emphasis to those using the language. The others appear as simply being contorted. Attitudinals could be used instead of 'ba'e' (going after the word in question). Depending on the circumstances, anyways. > No single method. The one I favour is: > > da poi ke'a batci le mrilu prenu du le gerku > > da poi le gerku batci ke'a du le mrilu prenu Missed a 'cu'. And the 'du' is dreadful. > For the third, I'd probably fall back on > > le gerku ba'e batci le mrilu prenu Missed a 'cu'. -- Jay Kominek Never look a gift horse in the mouth. Or any other orifice, for that matter.