From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Mon Sep 23 07:48:04 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 23 Sep 2002 14:48:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 86723 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2002 14:48:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Sep 2002 14:48:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO com1.uclan.ac.uk) (193.61.255.3) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Sep 2002 14:48:02 -0000 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:15:51 +0100 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:48:26 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:48:21 +0100 To: lojban Subject: importing quantifiers (was: Re: tu'o usage Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline From: And Rosta X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=810630 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin The only place where the importing/nonimportingness of ro makes an obvious difference, as far as I can see, is as an inner quantifier, and to my mind it is very useful that {lo'i broda}=3D{lo'i ro broda} not ex= clude {lo'i no broda}. If I want to exclude {lo'i no broda} I can say=20 {lo'i su'o broda}. The rest of the discussion is too abstruse and too angelic-pinhead- terpsichorean even for me! I humbly place my faith in xorxes to show me the light & guide me on the True Path. --And.