From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Sep 23 09:43:53 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 23 Sep 2002 16:43:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 92587 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2002 16:42:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Sep 2002 16:42:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Sep 2002 16:42:03 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17tWJk-0006tx-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:44:16 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17tWJ8-0006rf-00; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:43:38 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:43:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miranda.org ([209.58.150.153] ident=qmailr) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17tWJ1-0006rN-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:43:31 -0700 Received: (qmail 26256 invoked by uid 534); 23 Sep 2002 16:41:17 -0000 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 10:41:17 -0600 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: cmavo for emphasis? Message-ID: <20020923104117.F6159@miranda.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from arosta@uclan.ac.uk on Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 05:35:35PM +0100 X-archive-position: 1532 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jkominek@miranda.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jay F Kominek From: Jay F Kominek Reply-To: jkominek@miranda.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 05:35:35PM +0100, And Rosta wrote: > Yes about {ba'e} as the emphasis marker. But what I said wasn;t > irrelevant. Viktor asked "how do we express this", I said how, and > Jay answered that users of the language wouldn't understand the > usage. In a sense I was arguing that Jay's point was irrelevant, > that what users will or won't understand doesn't tell us much about > Lojban. Users won't understand it because it is bloody well wrong, as you've now noticed. -- Jay Kominek Tact is the ability to tell a man he has an open mind when he has a hole in his head.