From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Sep 26 23:04:04 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 27 Sep 2002 06:04:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 15610 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2002 06:04:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Sep 2002 06:04:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2002 06:04:03 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17uoGt-000159-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 23:06:39 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17uoGL-00014l-00; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 23:06:06 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 26 Sep 2002 23:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17uoGI-00014c-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 23:06:02 -0700 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g8R6AFGZ025893 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 01:10:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g8R6AFx4025892 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 01:10:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 01:10:15 -0500 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: paroi ro mentu Message-ID: <20020927061015.GB24912@allusion.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 1607 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 11:00:37PM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > What do you all think of this: >=20 > le plini cu mulcarna paroi ro mentu >=20 > 1- Is {mulcarna} good for "x1 makes a full turn around x2 > in direction x3"? This works fine I think; I don't think carna requires that the axis of rotation intersect the le carna, so it should be fine. > 2- The problem with {paroi ro mentu} is that the quantifiers > are in the wrong order. The alternative {ro da poi mentu zo'u > le plini cu mulcarna paroi da} is too longwinded and requires > forethought. Any ideas? But it's not actually true that it does it paroi ro mentu. Certainly the planet hasn't been there forever, eh? lo'e mentu isn't quite right either probably (i'm no astronomer though). It seems like this may be a good place to use "le'e", as it's really not neccesarily a representative lo'e minute of all the minutes, but is instead representative of a relevant subset of lo'i mentu (particularly the subset for which the planet hasn't yet been engulfed in its sun's supernova or however else planets cease to be, and after which it has formed). So I suggest {paroi le'e mentu}. pe'ipei (btw; on a tangent: what the hell does x3 and x4 of plini mean? Has anyone ever used them in a sentence?) --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9k/ZGDrrilS51AZ8RAt34AJ4r8kjj90relP/kWpWGazbP3ZxdVACgkkdF ZpzQNNoIO5xQRrLk4dM3HJ8= =jYdN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yEPQxsgoJgBvi8ip--