From jcowan@reutershealth.com Fri Sep 27 08:45:55 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 27 Sep 2002 15:45:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 65759 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2002 15:45:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Sep 2002 15:45:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.reutershealth.com) (65.246.141.151) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2002 15:45:54 -0000 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[10.65.117.21]) by mail2.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA25011; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 11:57:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200209271557.LAA25011@mail2.reutershealth.com> Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 27 Sep 2002 11:45:24 -0400 Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: interactions between tenses, other tenses, and NA To: jjllambias@hotmail.com (jjllambias2000) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 11:45:24 -0400 (EDT) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: from "jjllambias2000" at Sep 27, 2002 03:41:54 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=8122456 X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan jjllambias2000 scripsit: > Every time I see or write {na} in a longuish or a little bit complex > sentence I have to spend some time analyzing it before I can > be sure of what it says. And for the next sentence I have to > start from scratch, I haven't developed any intuition about it. Whenever you see a sentence with "na", interpret it as "It is false that ..." (or Spanish equivalent thereof). > Of course, and everybody says things wrong every now and then > even in their native language. All I'm saying is that the rule > for {na} is extremely difficult to master, at least for me. It is pretty alien, yes. -- First known example of political correctness: John Cowan "After Nurhachi had united all the other http://www.reutershealth.com Jurchen tribes under the leadership of the http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Manchus, his successor Abahai (1592-1643) jcowan@reutershealth.com issued an order that the name Jurchen should --S. Robert Ramsey, be banned, and from then on, they were all _The Languages of China_ to be called Manchus.