From jjllambias@hotmail.com Fri Sep 27 11:08:00 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 27 Sep 2002 18:08:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 97953 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2002 18:07:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Sep 2002 18:07:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.84) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2002 18:07:59 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.174] by n28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2002 18:07:59 -0000 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:07:58 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: paroi ro mentu Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20020927161742.GB28382@allusion.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1069 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "jjllambias2000" X-Originating-IP: 200.49.74.2 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la djorden cusku di'e > Now that I think about it, I actually think the book's example goes > the other way. In > mi klama le zarci reroi le ca djedi > unfortunately we can assume there's only 1 ca djedi, and thus it > doesn't say definitively. So the book's example doesn't go either way. As usual, sumti with singular referents don't care about the scope of quantifiers. > But if we assume the general left to > right rule applies, and consider the same thing meaning "current > days" instead of the "current day", it doesn't make sense that the > re should change to re * number_of_days. On the contrary, I think "twice every day" for {reroi le so'i djedi} makes eminent sense. What you want to do is give it the sense of {reroi le djedi be li so'i}, twice in the many-days-period. But that's a different thing. {reroi} tells you the number of times in one given period, never the number of times in a number of periods taken together. So the quantification over periods must always have scope over the number of times in each period. mu'o mi'e xorxes