From jcowan@reutershealth.com Sat Sep 28 12:26:17 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 28 Sep 2002 19:26:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 98881 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2002 19:26:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Sep 2002 19:26:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2002 19:26:16 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17vNGv-0008Dt-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 12:29:01 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17vNGN-0008DZ-00; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 12:28:27 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 28 Sep 2002 12:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [65.246.141.151] (helo=mail2.reutershealth.com) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17vNGJ-0008DP-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 12:28:23 -0700 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[10.65.117.21]) by mail2.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA07108; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:36:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200209281936.PAA07108@mail2.reutershealth.com> Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:24:35 -0400 Subject: [lojban] Re: ka ka (was: Context Leapers) To: xod@thestonecutters.net Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Cc: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <20020928023620.U70515-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> from "Invent Yourself" at Sep 28, 2002 03:07:32 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 1676 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: John Cowan Reply-To: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=8122456 X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan Invent Yourself scripsit: > The book explains this with a meaningless sentences: "Example 5.4 conveys > that the blueness comes and goes, whereas Example 5.5 conveys that its > quantity changes over time." Specifically, the "whereas" makes it mean > ingless because there is no difference between the two clauses. (The high > quality of the rest of the CLL makes the conceptual chaos of this > notorious chapter all the more noticeable.) You betcha. I knew damned well I was skating on thin ice when I wrote this chapter. The other really bad chapter is the logic one. -- John Cowan jcowan@reutershealth.com http://www.reutershealth.com http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Humpty Dump Dublin squeaks through his norse Humpty Dump Dublin hath a horrible vorse But for all his kinks English / And his irismanx brogues Humpty Dump Dublin's grandada of all rogues. --Cousin James