From edward.cherlin.sy.67@aya.yale.edu Sat Sep 28 14:59:14 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 28 Sep 2002 21:59:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 3447 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2002 21:59:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Sep 2002 21:59:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2002 21:59:14 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17vPez-0000EW-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:02:01 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17vPeH-0000EE-00; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:01:17 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net ([64.164.98.8]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17vPe8-0000E5-00 for lojban-list@digitalkingdom.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:01:08 -0700 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([216.102.199.245]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H36003TX516CZ@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for lojban-list@digitalkingdom.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 14:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 14:59:50 -0700 Subject: [lojban] Re: On what there isn't In-reply-to: <5a.124d96ed.2ac5ef52@aol.com> To: lojban-list@digitalkingdom.org Message-id: <200209281459.50544.edward.cherlin.sy.67@aya.yale.edu> Organization: Saybrook '67 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <5a.124d96ed.2ac5ef52@aol.com> X-archive-position: 1682 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: edward.cherlin.sy.67@aya.yale.edu Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Edward Cherlin Reply-To: edward.cherlin.sy.67@aya.yale.edu X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=31895329 X-Yahoo-Profile: echerlin On Friday 27 September 2002 10:28 am, pycyn@aol.com wrote: > what struck me was a copy of Non-Existent Objects, by Terry > Parsons, a book I had heard of but never seen before. And cheap > (even if I wasn't already in the "this is just monopoly money" mode > -- which cost me when I got the conversions on my bills). > > * What Parsons has done is devise a logical system -- which he > shows consistent -- in which non-existent objects can play fairly > normal roles Parsons, T. 1980 Nonexistent Objects. New Haven: Yale University Press out of print...nothing on Amazon...89 hits on Google. Related topics: Meinongian ontology, non-Quinean quantifiers Here is someone we could ask about these things. http://www-personal.umich.edu/~hofweber/papers/neo.html http://www-personal.umich.edu/~hofweber/papers/neo.pdf Quantification and Non-Existent Objects Thomas Hofweber University of Michigan, Ann Arbor References [ Barwise and Cooper1981] Barwise, J., and R. Cooper. 1981. Generalized quantifiers and natural language. Linguistics and Philosophy 4:159-219. [ Carnap1956] Carnap, R. 1956. Empiricism, semantics, and ontology. In Meaning and Necessity. Chicago: University of Chicago Press. [ Dalryple et al. 1998] Dalryple, M., M. Kanazawa, Y. Kim, S. Mchombo, and S. Peters. 1998. Reciprocal expressions and the concept of reciprocity. Linguistics and Philosophy 159-210. [ Gamut1991] Gamut, L. T. F. 1991. Logic, Language, and Meaning. Vol. II. University of Chicago Press. [ Hofwebera] Hofweber, T. n.d.a. Innocent statements and their metaphysically loaded counterparts. Unpublished ms., Unpublished manuscript. [ Hofweberb] Hofweber, T. n.d.b. Number determiners, numbers, and arithmetic. Unpublished ms., Unpublished manuscript. [ Hofweberc] Hofweber, T. n.d.c. A puzzle about ontology. Unpublished ms., Unpublished manuscript. [ Hofweber1999] Hofweber, T. 1999. Ontology and Objectivity. PhD thesis, Stanford University. [ Lø nning1997] Lø nning, J. T. 1997. Plurals and collectivity. In J. van Benthem and A. ter Meulen (Eds.), Handbook of Logic and Language. Elsevier. [ Parsons1980] Parsons, T. 1980. Nonexistent Objects. New Haven: Yale University Press. [ van der Does1995] van der Does, J. 1995. Sums and quantifiers. Linguistics and Philosophy 16:509-550. [ van Inwagen2000] van Inwagen, Peter. 2000. Quantification and fictional discourse. In A. Everett and T. Hofweber (Eds.), Empty Names, Fiction, and the Puzzles of Non-Existence. Stanford: CSLI Press. -- Edward Cherlin Generalist "A knot! Oh, do let me help to undo it!" --Alice in Wonderland