From jcowan@reutershealth.com Sat Sep 28 21:15:29 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 29 Sep 2002 04:15:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 12033 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2002 04:15:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Sep 2002 04:15:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.reutershealth.com) (65.246.141.151) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2002 04:15:26 -0000 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[10.65.117.21]) by mail2.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA09327; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 00:26:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200209290426.AAA09327@mail2.reutershealth.com> Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 29 Sep 2002 00:14:59 -0400 Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: interactions between tenses, other tenses, and NA To: jjllambias@hotmail.com (Jorge Llambias) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 00:14:59 -0400 (EDT) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: from "Jorge Llambias" at Sep 29, 2002 12:41:03 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=8122456 X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan Jorge Llambias scripsit: > In Spanish, saying "todos no" instead of "no todos" sounds > extremely weird to me. (Saying in English "Everybody doesn't" > instead of "Not everybody does" sounds just as weird to me, but > maybe it is because of the Spanish influence.) It can be done, > but in very restricted circumstances, with a very emphatic > "todos". Same story in English -- it is not the Spanish influence. Certain words, especially those beginning with "every-", insist on attracting the negation to them, so it has to be "No one writes to the Colonel" and by no means "Everyone doesn't write to the Colonel" as a translation of "El coronel no tiene quien le escriba" (the novel, that is). -- Only do what only you can do. John Cowan --Edsger W. Dijkstra, http://www.reutershealth.com deceased 6 August 2002 http://www.ccil.org/~cowan