From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Sep 29 12:47:17 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 29 Sep 2002 19:47:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 1571 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2002 19:47:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Sep 2002 19:47:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2002 19:47:17 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17vk4v-00057i-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:50:09 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17vk49-00057G-00; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:49:21 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17vk3q-000577-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:49:03 -0700 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g8TJr3GZ055638 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 14:53:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g8TJr32r055637 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 14:53:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 14:53:02 -0500 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: sticky hypothesis Message-ID: <20020929195302.GA55560@allusion.net> References: <004101c267f1$09a235c0$d904f8c1@ftiq2awxk6> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <004101c267f1$09a235c0$d904f8c1@ftiq2awxk6> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 1732 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 09:46:34PM +0200, Lionel Vidal wrote: > xorxes: [...] > BTW, the fact that the book does not support the proposed use > of {ru'a} is not a problem: it is grammatical, it may add a useful > feature or an ease of expression without introducing any > contradiction, and I am almost sure I would have guessed > the purpose of the construct while first reading it (ok I may > be biased here :-)} I sure wouldn't have. I see "ru'anai" as similar to "da'inai". You're saying that it's not an assumption, not ending a group of sentences which were an assumption. It is grammatical, yes, but it also already has a meaning which is *not* for scoping text. --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9l1oeDrrilS51AZ8RAh78AJ9PtkGG1CRxdpBnnB/IfUuiPSUELQCfVrx6 wFlgqgk9FrM0cAnI4fqaBbo= =hY/D -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND--