From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Sep 29 12:49:49 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 29 Sep 2002 19:49:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 94835 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2002 19:49:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Sep 2002 19:49:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2002 19:49:49 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17vk7O-00058o-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:52:42 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17vk6f-00058V-00; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:51:57 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:51:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17vk6Q-00058M-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 12:51:42 -0700 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g8TJtpGZ055732 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 14:55:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g8TJtp7C055731 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 14:55:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 14:55:51 -0500 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: sticky hypothesis Message-ID: <20020929195551.GB55560@allusion.net> References: <170.149ce6d3.2ac8b128@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <170.149ce6d3.2ac8b128@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 1733 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 03:40:24PM -0400, pycyn@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/29/2002 5:10:01 AM Central Daylight Time, nessus@fre= e.fr=20 > writes: > << > > Is there a grammatical device to make some hypothesis > > marked by {da'i} sticky?=20=20 > >> > I suppose that this is pretty much like setting a time, setting a world i= n=20 > which ... So, {da'i ki} works until {na'u} or bare {ki}. It does parse= =20 > correctly by the way. No it doesn't. It doesn't attach the ki to the da'i. I was trying to find a way to do that using fi'o and such, but it doesn't work, the KI gets read into a rule for simple-tense-modal which is nothing but a KI. So "ki" standing alone is in fact a term. You *could* try to cheat with do'e like {do'e da'i ki} to at least put them together though. --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9l1rGDrrilS51AZ8RAkNEAJ4loznfxlTjRRC25+HsnTAMo/x6lwCgjfoV Q6Kv76f7f+IwyY2tJYWyYpE= =4MNa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc--