From jcowan@reutershealth.com Mon Sep 30 15:47:19 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 30 Sep 2002 22:47:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 95797 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2002 22:47:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Sep 2002 22:47:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.reutershealth.com) (65.246.141.151) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 22:47:18 -0000 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[10.65.117.21]) by mail2.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA27427; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 18:58:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200209302258.SAA27427@mail2.reutershealth.com> Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 30 Sep 2002 18:46:45 -0400 Subject: Re: [lojban] LOI PRENU GO PA MEI GI KA'E NAI TE JINGA? To: jjllambias@hotmail.com (Jorge Llambias) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 18:46:45 -0400 (EDT) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: from "Jorge Llambias" at Sep 30, 2002 10:31:25 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=8122456 X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan Jorge Llambias scripsit: > Hard to tell. The Lojban is symmetric, it might just as well stand > for "the people, defeated, will never be united" or something similar. Doesn't that follow from the original? If they are defeated, then obviously they weren't (properly) united in the first place. -- John Cowan jcowan@reutershealth.com www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan "The exception proves the rule." Dimbulbs think: "Your counterexample proves my theory." Classicists think "'Probat' means 'tests': the exception puts the rule to the proof." But legal historians know it means "Evidence for an exception is evidence of the existence of a rule in cases not excepted from."