From lojbab@lojban.org Wed Oct 02 14:29:34 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: Lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 2 Oct 2002 21:29:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 99710 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2002 21:29:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Oct 2002 21:29:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakemtao03.cox.net) (68.1.17.242) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2002 21:29:30 -0000 Received: from lojban.lojban.org ([68.100.206.153]) by lakemtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20021002212930.EDFF16428.lakemtao03.cox.net@lojban.lojban.org> for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 17:29:30 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021002170951.030d5e70@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 17:14:21 -0400 To: Lojban Subject: Re: [lojban] gizmu In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: Robert LeChevalier X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab At 03:10 PM 10/1/02 +0100, And Rosta wrote: >Out of curiosity, I wonder to what extent Lojbanists anglicize the >pronunciation of Lojban words when used in English. For example, I >unconsciously anglicize _gismu_ to /gizmu/. (I have other strange >mispronunciations too, but they are not obvious anglicizations.) "gismu" for me has a very sibilant "s", and indeed I think much of my Lojban is afflicted with overly sibilant sibilants, so that I often tongue-twist in the "She sells seashells by the seashore" manner. The worst problem that most people notice in English-Anerican Lojban speaking is the schwa-ing of unstressed vowels, especially "a". lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org