From jjllambias@hotmail.com Wed Oct 02 15:52:12 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 2 Oct 2002 22:52:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 32459 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2002 22:52:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Oct 2002 22:52:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.68) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2002 22:52:11 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.183] by n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2002 22:52:11 -0000 Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 22:52:10 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: bare cmevla Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1239 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "jjllambias2000" X-Originating-IP: 200.69.6.58 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la and cusku di'e > Does that mean that if you hit a bare cmevla mid sentence the sentence > terminates at that point? Well, no, apparently they can only appear at the beginning of a text. Two texts in a row don't form a grammatical text. But I never fully assimilated the grammar at this level. > > Of course, it would be so much more convenient to have it in BRIVLA... > > Or KOhA? The way they currently work is more similar to BRIVLA, since they require an article and they can form a sort of tanru. Making them BRIVLA would require almost no changes from the current language, KOhA would be a more drastic change. > Baseline aside, would there be a downside to having bare cmevla in > BRIVLA or KOhA? None that I can think of. You'd have to say {la djan cu klama le zarci} instead of {la djan klama le zarci}, (I tend to do that already in many cases anyway) and {la djan ku joi la meris} instead of {la djan joi la meris}, but we already have to do that with normal words anyway. Of course pauses before the name would be required except when preceded by la, lai, doi, but that is already the case now when preceded by COI. No change in grammar is required since the word class BRIVLA already exists. mu'o mi'e xorxes