From opoudjis@optushome.com.au Thu Oct 03 03:02:08 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: opoudjis@optushome.com.au X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 3 Oct 2002 10:02:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 29581 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2002 10:02:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Oct 2002 10:02:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail024.syd.optusnet.com.au) (210.49.20.148) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2002 10:02:07 -0000 Received: from optushome.com.au (c17180.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au [210.49.155.40]) by mail024.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g93A26K01141 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:02:06 +1000 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:02:06 +1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v546) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Lojban in 12 weeks? To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <2C28C415-D6B7-11D6-BC3D-003065D4EC72@optushome.com.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.546) From: Nick Nicholas X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=90350612 X-Yahoo-Profile: opoudjis The Lojban brochure includes the claim: "A working vocabulary including the complete set of 1350 root words takes about 8.12 weeks of study at 1 hour per day." Robin.CA's apophthegmatic response on the Wiki errata page: "Bullshit". I'm inclined to agree, actually, and have gone on record as saying that we short-change Lojban when we claim it is an easy language to learn --- it clearly isn't, and even if you learn the gismu in 12 weeks, that in itself doesn't mean all that much. But I'd like to solicit opinions on this. Should this guesstimate be excised from the Level 0 document? What has people's experience of Logflash-like programs been in the past few years? Nick Nicholas Linguistics, Uni. Melbourne Dera me xhama t"e larm"e, Australia nickn@unimelb.edu.au Dera mbas blerimit http://www.opoudjis.net Me xhama t"e larm"e! In case you're wondering: Lumtunia nuk ka ngjyra tjera. the poem is in Albanian. (Martin Camaj, _Nj"e Shp'i e Vetme_)