From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Oct 03 07:58:25 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 3 Oct 2002 14:58:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 24388 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2002 14:58:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Oct 2002 14:58:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2002 14:58:24 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17x7Tw-0002Op-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 08:01:40 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17x7TI-0002OH-00; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 08:01:00 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 03 Oct 2002 08:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17x7TF-0002O8-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 08:00:57 -0700 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g93F4xGZ090159 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:04:59 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g93F4xQe090158 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:04:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:04:59 -0500 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: tu'o du'u (was Re: xoi'a) Message-ID: <20021003150459.GA89987@allusion.net> References: <70.23f833f6.2acda469@aol.com> <20021003145505.GB89770@allusion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021003145505.GB89770@allusion.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 1865 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 09:55:05AM -0500, Jordan DeLong wrote: > On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 09:47:21AM -0400, pycyn@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/2/2002 7:15:29 PM Central Daylight Time, > > lojban-out@lojban.org writes: > > << > > > Also I think saying "lo nazbi be mi" is more or less wrong. If > > > you're talking about your nose, you must know it, so you really > > > should say "le nazbi be mi". Same thing as the du'u stuff. The > > > "a nose of mine" reading is much more like "lo nazbi" than "le > > > nazbi". The inner ro on "le" does *not* imply I have multiple > > > noses. But using "lo" insead of "le" would imply I'm not sure > > > which thing is my nose. > > >> > > Errh. Isn't the assumed inner quantifier on {le} {su'o} and the outer {ro}? > > You're correct. I should've said the inner su'opa on ro doesn't meaning the inner su'opa on *le*. *thwacks himself* > claim that there are neccesarily more (nazbi be mi) than this one. -- Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku