From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Oct 03 16:01:15 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 3 Oct 2002 23:01:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 37487 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2002 23:01:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Oct 2002 23:01:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Oct 2002 23:01:14 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17xF1G-00050n-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 16:04:34 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17xF0j-00050M-00; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 16:04:01 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 03 Oct 2002 16:04:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17xF0f-00050B-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2002 16:03:58 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C472912B79 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 02:00:34 +0300 (EEST) Received: from bilkent.edu.tr (ppp148.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.111.148]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2692D12B3F for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 02:00:32 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <3D9CCD45.4050607@bilkent.edu.tr> Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 02:05:41 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.8) Gecko/20020204 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: a new kind of fundamentalism References: <20021003111449.Q95321-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> <000e01c26b1d$8a080440$3ac90950@ftiq2awxk6> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020300 X-archive-position: 1887 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Turner From: Robin Turner Reply-To: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out Lionel Vidal wrote: > > >To give you an example on a connected subject, most linguists >specialised in some languages know them perfectly in their >intimate mechanism and discuss relevently of the specific >means used to convey meanings (which is kind of what jboske is >all about), but are not users. Most of them are not even fluent >in them. > BIG problem in linguistics! robin.tr -- "We do not imprison ourselves with laws, or impoverish ourselves with money" - Iain Banks Robin Tunrer IDMYO Bilkent Universitesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin