From a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Fri Oct 04 05:20:52 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 4 Oct 2002 12:20:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 72353 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2002 12:20:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Oct 2002 12:20:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Oct 2002 12:20:52 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17xRVA-0000WN-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 05:24:16 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17xRU1-0000VV-00; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 05:23:05 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 04 Oct 2002 05:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbox-12.st1.spray.net ([212.78.202.112]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17xRTu-0000V5-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 05:22:58 -0700 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-67-81.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.67.81]) by mailbox-12.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560E55C251 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:12:45 +0200 (DST) To: Subject: [lojban] preventing cartmanism (was: RE: Re: a new kind of fundamentalism Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 13:14:24 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20021003164614.A26784@miranda.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal X-archive-position: 1896 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: "And Rosta" Reply-To: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=122260811 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin Jay: > On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 01:44:27AM +0300, Robin Turner wrote: > > A speaker of a conlang is more likely to say, in the immortal words > > of Eric Cartman, "Screw you guys, I'm going home." > > Exactly. And this is what the "new fundamentalists" want to prevent. It's what we all want to prevent. How to prevent it is one of the themes of this thread. My view continues to be that the best solution is to ghettoize (to different lists and different areas of the wiki) the controversial activities of the various factions, and reserve the common forums for uncontroversial things. Lojbab seems to have come round to this view recently. In other words, given that not everyone wants to play the same game, we should manage our affairs so that the different games can be played separately without infringing on the others. --And.