From jcowan@reutershealth.com Fri Oct 04 12:32:42 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 4 Oct 2002 19:32:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 55966 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2002 19:32:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Oct 2002 19:32:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Oct 2002 19:32:41 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17xYF5-0003IT-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 12:36:07 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17xYEU-0003I8-00; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 12:35:30 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 04 Oct 2002 12:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [65.246.141.151] (helo=mail2.reutershealth.com) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17xYEQ-0003Hy-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 12:35:26 -0700 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[10.65.117.21]) by mail2.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA25069; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:43:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200210041943.PAA25069@mail2.reutershealth.com> Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:30:49 -0400 Subject: [lojban] Re: a new kind of fundamentalism To: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Cc: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: from "And Rosta" at Oct 04, 2002 08:03:02 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 1906 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: John Cowan Reply-To: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=8122456 X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan And Rosta scripsit: > I don't have anything remotely approaching mastery of usage. My > usage of the past, though it contained grammatical errors, was > more saliently characterized for being perversely difficult, in > that I deliberately tried to exploit the possibilities allowed > by the grammar, rather than staying within the much narrower > bounds of conventions of usage. As I recall, you would write le broda cu brode le brodi le brodo correctly but perversely as: brode be fa le broda bei fe le brodi bei fi le brodo which when nested a bit deeper caused the reader to go blind. -- John Cowan jcowan@reutershealth.com www.reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan Consider the matter of Analytic Philosophy. Dennett and Bennett are well-known. Dennett rarely or never cites Bennett, so Bennett rarely or never cites Dennett. There is also one Dummett. By their works shall ye know them. However, just as no trinities have fourth persons (Zeppo Marx notwithstanding), Bummett is hardly known by his works. Indeed, Bummett does not exist. It is part of the function of this and other e-mail messages, therefore, to do what they can to create him.