From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Oct 04 15:29:27 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 4 Oct 2002 22:29:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 97653 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2002 22:29:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Oct 2002 22:29:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Oct 2002 22:29:26 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17xb09-0004ME-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 15:32:53 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17xazP-0004Ln-00; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 15:32:07 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 04 Oct 2002 15:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.173.31]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17xazL-0004Le-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 15:32:03 -0700 Received: from m53-mp1.cvx1-b.man.dial.ntli.net (HELO paul) (poldenet@62.252.200.53 with login) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Oct 2002 22:28:31 -0000 Message-ID: <009b01c26bf5$5431bae0$35c8fc3e@dennett> To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021003071349.032088c0@pop.east.cox.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021003182900.0320ac90@pop.east.cox.net> Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban in 12 weeks? Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:25:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008F_01C26BFD.4C730720" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-archive-position: 1907 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: poldenet@yahoo.co.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: "poldenet" From: "poldenet" Reply-To: poldenet@yahoo.co.uk X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out ------=_NextPart_000_008F_01C26BFD.4C730720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable lojbab wrote: > I look at Under Control Lessons from AFTER all=20 > new words are completed to get an idea of overall progress (The best=20 > approach is to go into maintenance mode and randomly regroup the words). Thanks for the tip. I may well try that one. >> So although I was regularly remembering 80% plus of the Under Control=20 >> words, I think this gave a somewhat inflated impression of my real=20 >> ability, as the test on 17th September indicated. > Yes. However a 53% recall is pretty good for a single pass (indeed I am= =20 > surprised that it was anywhere near as high as your recognition scores). I anticipated that recall might be more difficult so I made a special effor= t to learn the gismu both ways. Also I wrote out all the gismu and their definitions longhand during the Ne= w Words mode, which perhaps helped. PD --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.386 / Virus Database: 218 - Release Date: 09/09/02 ------=_NextPart_000_008F_01C26BFD.4C730720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

lojbab wrote:

> I look at Under Control Lessons from AFTER all= =20 > new words are completed to get an idea of overall progress (The be= st=20 > approach is to go into maintenance mode and randomly regroup the=20 words).

Thanks for the tip. I may well t= ry that=20 one.

>> So although I was regularly remember= ing 80%=20 plus of the Under Control >> words, I think this gave a somewhat= =20 inflated impression of my real >> ability, as the test on 17th=20 September indicated. > Yes. However a 53% recall is pretty = good=20 for a single pass (indeed I am > surprised that it was anywhere near= as=20 high as your recognition scores).

I anticipated= that=20 recall might be more difficult so I made a special effort to learn the gism= u=20 both ways.

Also I wrote = out all the=20 gismu and their definitions longhand during the New Words mode, which perha= ps=20 helped.

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