From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Oct 08 19:03:12 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 9 Oct 2002 02:03:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 27415 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 02:03:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Oct 2002 02:03:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2002 02:03:11 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17z6Fd-0004MY-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 08 Oct 2002 19:07:05 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17z6Es-0004MA-00; Tue, 08 Oct 2002 19:06:18 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 08 Oct 2002 19:06:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17z6Eh-0004M0-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2002 19:06:07 -0700 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g992A6GZ048493 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 21:10:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g992A6I0048492 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 21:10:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 21:10:06 -0500 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Again with the Alice. Message-ID: <20021009021006.GA48376@allusion.net> References: <20021008200946.GS4649@digitalkingdom.org> <003801c26fdf$1885b080$af86003e@default> <20021008220916.GV4649@digitalkingdom.org> <004d01c26fe7$70f30b20$af86003e@default> <20021008231452.GZ4649@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021008231452.GZ4649@digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 2015 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 04:14:52PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 12:58:17AM +0200, Adam Raizen wrote: > > > > Btw, I assume it would not be a problem to click on edit for a > > > > page, disconnect from the internet, translate some, and then > > > > reconnect and submit it (some of us have dialup accounts, and have > > > > to pay for local calls). > > > > > > And that is *exactly* why I split it into paragraphs: > > > > > > While you are gone the page is locked. People can break the lock, > > > but then things get messy. I didn't want whole chapters to be > > > locked at once long term. > > > > > > It expires after one hour, but still. And this way I can increase > > > that time limit. > >=20 > > That might solve your locking problem, but it exacerbates the dialup > > problem. With the way it is now, I would have to dialup my ISP, > > retrieve the paragraph, disconnect, translate it, dialup again, submit > > and get the next paragraph, disconnect, etc. It strongly discourages > > doing much more than a paragraph at a time. >=20 > OK. >=20 > So, we have what appears to be an insurmountable conflict: >=20 > I am not OK with having an entire chapter of Alice locked while you are > doing your offline editing. >=20 > You are not OK with dealing with it being broken up into paragraphs > (what's stopping you from editing more than one paragraph at a time, > anyways?). >=20 > I see no obvious solution. Do you have one? How about making the RCS database public for people who prefer to edit offline/not in a webbrowser/etc? For extra credit you could forward port the twiki code to use CVS instead. Dunno...=20 --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9o4/+DrrilS51AZ8RAkxjAJ9VNFefqAsa9BDt6w6ZnGu9kbeXPgCcCLyQ ydcPZ4FmOzW8s5QRucInDww= =NVk0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF--