From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Oct 09 10:15:10 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 9 Oct 2002 17:15:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 44470 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2002 17:15:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Oct 2002 17:15:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2002 17:15:09 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17zKUF-0003Lt-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 10:19:07 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17zKTX-0003La-00; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 10:18:23 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 09 Oct 2002 10:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17zKTT-0003LM-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2002 10:18:19 -0700 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 10:18:19 -0700 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Again with the Alice. Message-ID: <20021009171819.GF4649@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20021008200946.GS4649@digitalkingdom.org> <003801c26fdf$1885b080$af86003e@default> <20021008220916.GV4649@digitalkingdom.org> <004d01c26fe7$70f30b20$af86003e@default> <20021008231452.GZ4649@digitalkingdom.org> <20021009021006.GA48376@allusion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021009021006.GA48376@allusion.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 2035 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 09:10:06PM -0500, Jordan DeLong wrote: > On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 04:14:52PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 12:58:17AM +0200, Adam Raizen wrote: > > > > > Btw, I assume it would not be a problem to click on edit for a > > > > > page, disconnect from the internet, translate some, and then > > > > > reconnect and submit it (some of us have dialup accounts, and > > > > > have to pay for local calls). > > > > > > > > And that is *exactly* why I split it into paragraphs: > > > > > > > > While you are gone the page is locked. People can break the > > > > lock, but then things get messy. I didn't want whole chapters > > > > to be locked at once long term. > > > > > > > > It expires after one hour, but still. And this way I can > > > > increase that time limit. > > > > > > That might solve your locking problem, but it exacerbates the > > > dialup problem. With the way it is now, I would have to dialup my > > > ISP, retrieve the paragraph, disconnect, translate it, dialup > > > again, submit and get the next paragraph, disconnect, etc. It > > > strongly discourages doing much more than a paragraph at a time. > > > > OK. > > > > So, we have what appears to be an insurmountable conflict: > > > > I am not OK with having an entire chapter of Alice locked while you > > are doing your offline editing. > > > > You are not OK with dealing with it being broken up into paragraphs > > (what's stopping you from editing more than one paragraph at a time, > > anyways?). > > > > I see no obvious solution. Do you have one? > > How about making the RCS database public for people who prefer to edit > offline/not in a webbrowser/etc? Oh, yeah, *that* would fix the locking problem... ?! > For extra credit you could forward port the twiki code to use CVS > instead. Heh. You're welcome to write the code; I don't have time. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ http://www.lojban.org/ la lojban. jai curmi roda .einai to ku'i so'ada mukti le nu co'a darlu le'o -- RLP I'm a *male* Robin.