From jcowan@reutershealth.com Thu Oct 10 09:57:56 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 10 Oct 2002 16:57:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 6783 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2002 16:49:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Oct 2002 16:49:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2002 16:49:33 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17zgYf-00055P-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:53:09 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17zgVw-00054A-00; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:50:20 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:50:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [65.246.141.151] (helo=mail2.reutershealth.com) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17zgVs-00053n-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:50:16 -0700 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[10.65.117.21]) by mail2.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA03793; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:56:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200210101656.MAA03793@mail2.reutershealth.com> Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:44:27 -0400 Subject: [lojban] Re: [Announcement] The Alice Translation Has Moved And Changed To: phma@webjockey.net Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:44:27 -0400 (EDT) Cc: lojban-list@lojban.org (lojban-list) In-Reply-To: <0210101104121D.02775@neofelis> from "Pierre Abbat" at Oct 10, 2002 11:04:12 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 2113 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: John Cowan Reply-To: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=8122456 X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan Pierre Abbat scripsit: > Catalan uses dots in the middles of words, as in "gal.les" Cymraeg, to > indicate that the l's are two hard l's, not one soft one. (The dot is > supposed to be raised, but I can't type that.) >>From the Unicode viewpoint, the sequence "l." is actually a letter, so this is a matter of spelling rather than typographical tradition. > Several languages, notably Bantu but I've also seen it in Portuguese and > Irish, capitalize letters in the middle of words. Yes. Also, Chinese, Japanese, and Korean represent the self-same ideographs differently. This is not about simplified vs. traditional, but simply different shape conventions -- it's fairly obvious to all players that the characters are really the same, even though they look funny. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan "One time I called in to the central system and started working on a big thick 'sed' and 'awk' heavy duty data bashing script. One of the geologists came by, looked over my shoulder and said 'Oh, that happens to me too. Try hanging up and phoning in again.'" --Beverly Erlebacher