From a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Thu Oct 10 17:49:24 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 11 Oct 2002 00:49:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 6889 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2002 00:49:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Oct 2002 00:49:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailbox-14.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.114) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Oct 2002 00:49:24 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-71-182.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.71.182]) by mailbox-14.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52BFA4A152 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2002 02:49:15 +0200 (DST) To: Subject: RE: [lojban] Usage deciding (was: RE: Re: [Announcement] The Alice Translation Has Moved And Changed Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 01:50:56 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021010170356.032eb870@pop.east.cox.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=122260811 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin Lojbab: > You and And seem to be the primary innovators who KNOW that you are > acting against the baseline. That's probably true, but I don't think much of my activity is contrary to the baseline. There is universal agreement that CLL is wrong in places (or near-universal agreement, I had better say, now that Jordan has joined the community), so either mere deviance from CLL is not necessarily acting against the baseline, or else there is universal agreement to act against the baseline. It might be worth adding a wiki page devoted to cataloguing incontrovertible or even just plausible instances of advertent baseline violations. That would help give us a sense of the scale of the 'problem'. --And.