From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Mon Oct 14 05:56:26 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 14 Oct 2002 12:56:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 56366 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2002 12:56:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Oct 2002 12:56:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 2002 12:56:25 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 1814q8-0007vf-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:00:56 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 1814pa-0007vN-00; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:00:22 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk ([193.61.255.3]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 1814pX-0007vE-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 06:00:19 -0700 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:22:54 +0100 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:56:31 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:56:06 +0100 To: lojban-list Subject: [lojban] Re: x1 is of type x2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline X-archive-position: 2175 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: And Rosta Reply-To: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=810630 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin !. I was trying to construct a lujvo for "brand": "the champagne is rarely of a first-rate brand" and felt I needed such a gismu here, though I am considering using {branda}. 2. "It isn't the sort of thing one should talk of in private." Here one can say "na bilga lo'edu'u tavla fa lo'e mibypre fi le'e du va'o lo sivni" ... but I would like to be able to capture the "sort of thing" of the original. So I used {dzadanlu} as a lujvo for "x1 is of sort x2" -- I was fairly happy to base it on danlu; the dza was for lack of anything better. --And. >>> lojban-out@lojban.org 10/14/02 12:03pm >>> On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:07:58 +0100 "And Rosta" wrote: > What is the brivla for "x1 is of type/variety/sort/kind x2"? > > --And. First, show me that there is need for such a brivla. I'm not so sure that there is. -- Theodore Reed (rizen/bancus) -==- http://surreality.us:8080/~rizen/ ~GPG/PGP Signed/Encrypted Mail Preferred; Finger me for my public key!~ "Be careful when you wrestle with monsters, lest you thereby become one. For, if you stare long into the abyss, the abyss also stares into you." -- Friedrich Nietzsche