From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Oct 14 08:43:37 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 14 Oct 2002 15:43:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 74428 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2002 15:43:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Oct 2002 15:43:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 2002 15:43:37 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 1817Rw-0000Mg-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:48:08 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 1817RQ-0000MM-00; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:47:36 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 1817RM-0000MD-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:47:32 -0700 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9EFpPGZ009937 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:51:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g9EFpO7t009936 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:51:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:51:24 -0500 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: x1 is of type x2 Message-ID: <20021014155124.GA9906@allusion.net> References: <20021014154640.GB9308@allusion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021014154640.GB9308@allusion.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 2178 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 10:46:40AM -0500, Jordan DeLong wrote: > On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 01:56:06PM +0100, And Rosta wrote: [...] > Also I think the original makes a stronger claim than "na bilga" (=3D=3D = it > is false that should), so perhaps you should consider using a scalar > negator. Something like > to'e bilga co tavla fi le'e tai co'e va'o loi sivni > bilga co to'e tavla fi le'e tai co'e va'o loi sivni > .einai tavla fi le'e tai co'e va'o loi sivni > .e'i to'e tavla fi le'e tai co'e va'o loi sivni > (or other such thing) Or you could even just put it in the selbri tag place (for any of the above variants, (and others)): to'e bilga co tai tavla va'o loi sivni Which is probably a lot better than "fi le'e tai co'e". --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9quf8DrrilS51AZ8RAiMpAJ9IhmvB9d5uxo0SicRnBrBAkafzAACfRZI4 rhxAfoZV8W675L90IpNZfjI= =Jq2o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7--