From a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Tue Oct 15 12:38:32 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 15 Oct 2002 19:38:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 28991 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2002 19:38:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Oct 2002 19:38:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailbox-4.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.104) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Oct 2002 19:38:29 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-71-80.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.71.80]) by mailbox-4.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496E124EA9 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 21:38:25 +0200 (DST) To: "Lojban@Yahoogroups. Com" Subject: brivla for 'intend' Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 20:40:10 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=122260811 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin [2nd attempt to send; sorry if first arrives tomorrow] What is the best brivla for "x intends that p, x intends to p", given that intention does not entail action (or deliberate inaction) and that, ba'e ti'e, intention is a psychological primitive (i.e. doesn't reduce to a complex of other notions)? {selzilterzukte} is a bit of a mouthful, and won't easily crunch down to form other lujvo, and furthermore, what one's goals are is not quite the same as what one intends. For example, one can intend something whose natural tendency is to occur unless actively prevented, so long as one decides not to prevent it. But I wouldn't describe that as one's goal. --And.