From xod@thestonecutters.net Thu Oct 17 13:00:59 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 17 Oct 2002 20:00:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 57175 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2002 20:00:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Oct 2002 20:00:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Oct 2002 20:00:58 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 182Gtz-0008Bw-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:05:51 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 182GtP-0008Bf-00; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:05:15 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:05:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 182GtL-0008BW-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:05:11 -0700 Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9HK0Gt75190 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 16:00:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 16:00:16 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: zil In-Reply-To: <200210171941.PAA25990@mail2.reutershealth.com> Message-ID: <20021017155359.G73598-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 2248 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple coi rodo coi do mo co'a jimpe fi zo zi'o ca'o pensi ri je'e vimcu lo tergi'u fi'o selsinxa na'ebo le du'u T du noda Well, yeah. noda klama is different that klama with no x1 place at all. satci drani .i ku'i mu'i ma lo racli cu pilno zo zi'o BTW, for poetry at the very least. pluta zi'o == road to nowhere. lu pluta zi'o li'u frica lu pluta noda li'u ma "nowhere" = noda Hmmm. That's a good point. 8) > zilrelpikta > x1 is a ticket giving entitlement/privilege x2 under conditions x3 > > To include tickets that are not personalized. I would say it differs in that pluta zi'o never *had* an intended destination. It's just sort of *there*. Oh. That's a pretty good use, yeah. now that's a proper use of zi'o. It's actually sort of filled with roda the difference only arises in the special cases of lo tergi'u where "is nothing" is different from "doesn't exist" I can imagine a ticket without a name stamped on it, but I can't imagine a road without a destination, other than a road to noda a loop goes noda; a parking lot is a pluta zi'o Aaaah. That's interesting. a very lojbanic concept built-in koans xance darxi zi'o Heh heh heh. go'i noda is not a koan, it's waving your hand in the air -- Henry McCullers, an affable Plano, TX-area anti-Semite, praised the Jewish people Monday for doing "a bang-up job" running the media. "This has been such a great year for movies, and the new crop of fall TV shows looks to be one of the best in years," McCullers said. "And the cable news channels are doing a terrific job, too. Admittedly, they're not reporting on the Jewish stranglehold on world finance, but, hey, that's understandable."