From a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Thu Oct 17 13:30:10 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 17 Oct 2002 20:30:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 72638 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2002 20:30:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Oct 2002 20:30:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Oct 2002 20:30:09 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 182HME-0008F3-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:35:02 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 182HLe-0008EM-00; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:34:26 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:34:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbox-15.st1.spray.net ([212.78.202.115]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 182HLZ-0008E9-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:34:21 -0700 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-67-132.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.67.132]) by mailbox-15.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BDE2017D for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 22:28:55 +0200 (DST) To: Subject: [lojban] Re: brivla for 'intend' Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 21:30:42 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20021016012418.GA19572@allusion.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-archive-position: 2249 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: "And Rosta" Reply-To: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=122260811 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin Jordan: > On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 01:47:07AM +0100, And Rosta wrote: > > {djica} is pretty good, but I think it makes sense to say "I wanted > > to go to Paris but I didn't intend to go", and "We intended to > > execute the prisoners because we had to execute them, even though > > we didn't want to execute the prisoners". > > I think this is actually just an example of how many things "intend" > really means in english. In the first sentence, the "didn't intend" > means that you didn't actually decide to go even though you wanted > to -- so something with "jdice" would work in lojban. For the > second, depending on context, the "intend" might be "troci". > > I'd imagine that some usages of intend could "platu" as well. I agree that jdice and platu cover a lot of the cases. (But I don't agree that 'intend' is polysemous. That's beside the point, though.) --And.