From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Oct 17 17:36:03 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 18 Oct 2002 00:36:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 25038 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2002 00:36:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Oct 2002 00:36:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2002 00:36:02 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 182LCC-0000nI-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:40:56 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 182LBd-0000n1-00; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:40:21 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 182LBZ-0000ms-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:40:17 -0700 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9I0i5GZ036173 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 19:44:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g9I0i5uH036172 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 19:44:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 19:44:05 -0500 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: enlighten Message-ID: <20021018004405.GA35933@allusion.net> References: <3DAF4D0D.20500@bilkent.edu.tr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jI8keyz6grp/JLjh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DAF4D0D.20500@bilkent.edu.tr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 2256 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 02:51:41AM +0300, Robin Turner wrote: > Craig wrote: > >>Using gusni would be unacceptable metaphor, I think. It may be the cas= e > >>that most (maybe all?) cultures use the KNOWING IS SEEING metaphor, but > > > > > >I've been told that all IE cultures use this metaphor, while Afro-Asiati= c > >cultures prefer HEARING IS KNOWING ("Hear, o Israel..."), while some > >cultures eschew metaphor entirely. > >(Se non e vero, e ben trovato). > > > I can't imagine a culture eschewing metaphor entirely. Do you have any=20 > examples? le lojbo? I guess just eschews *unmarked* metaphor, though. :) :P --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9r1lVDrrilS51AZ8RAr53AJ9gFhAD4XVJCHKW07gWu1vISjMScACggw9Y QlCu2mSa5a99qtDTK1m4Q2w= =ydoo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh--